A deep breath as they weighed what they could - and could not say. Finally, "It has been... theorized... that an Ai I've worked with could be potentially used against us in the future. I disagree. But if the Ai didn't have a choice... maybe with your help I could learn how to protect against that possibility. If you're willing and able to help."

They were going to save Ziggy and prove Ziggy would never harm them. Ever.