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Aqua ([personal profile] aquawayfinder) wrote in [community profile] kingdoms_of_auradon 2025-02-13 08:50 am (UTC)

She sighed and chose to address the last point first. "Too much pain and you only see the pain not the cause, it is too easy to lose yourself in that sort of pain, that sort of anger. If you want to help, to make the kinds of changes you want to see... contrary as it may seem, the first step is to let the anger go. To see past the hurt, and examine the cause from multiple angles. With an issue such as injustice you cannot fix it coming at it from a place of pain and rage. You need to come at it from a place of understanding, with a mind open enough to accept the possibility that what you might find is the best that could be made of a bad situation or people genuinely trying to do something right who failed. Or maybe who think they succeeded because they were only looking at it from a single vector."

She considered then looked around and gestured at the room. "Take King Ben's parents as an example, since you brought them up. I don't think that how they handled the situation was right either... but I can see how they came to the solution that they did. I do not agree with it, but I see it. They were in pain, they were angry at something I think you would understand well. They were angry at what they saw as bullies. People with power, be it political or magical or both, who used it for selfish ends. People who hurt others either intentionally or uncaringly as a side effect of trying to get what they wanted. What justice could balance the scales against someone like their world's version of Lady Tremaine? They could jail her for what she did not just to Cinderella but to the animals in the household. But is that really justice? Should they have made her serve as she made Cinderella serve? What of her daughters? Should they have been excused because their mother was worse to Cinderella than they were and they shouldn't be held accountable because they're younger and had no good example? Or should they, just barely adults when everything came to a head, be held accountable for their own part in Cinderella's misery? What exactly is justice there? What could be done to them that would balance what was done to Cinderella without going too far? What of Jafar, trapped forever as a genie, but still a danger if the wrong person got ahold of their lamp. Did they do him a kindness making him human again while they punished him by cutting him off from all sources of power? What would be the balance there? What is the accountability? And which of them should suffer the worse punishment, Lea? Lady Tremaine and her daughters actively harmed Cinderella for a few years before they were stopped. But they never attempted to kill anyone. Jafar attempted to kill Aladdin and force Jasmine to marry him, but he failed at both. What he succeeded at was brainwashing the
Sultan for years but in ways that we cannot tell, could maybe never tell, if they actually did harm, and he had his familiar steal a lamp. And he briefly tormented a few people for less than a handful of days. He had the potential to do far more harm than Lady Tremaine, but in the end... it could be argued that he did less. So what would be accountability for him?"

She shook her head. "And there is more than accountability to be considered in their decision. More than fairness. They also wanted to prevent future harm to those who could not protect themselves. They felt a duty of care, a responsibility. So they felt compelled to ensure that those that caused harm before, however they were punished, however they were held accountable..."

"And then there is also a concern about public reaction. People who feel scared often make choices that do harm in ways they do not when they feel secure. Sadly the opposite is also true. People of any world, any species are people. None of us are perfect and even when harm is not intended, it is sometimes caused all the same. But I could see them thinking that if the people felt safe they wouldn't make choices that caused harm. Honestly from what I have learned from King Ben and the history books, I suspect that Queen Belle and King Beast were far more sheltered than either you or I have been in a very long time."

She looked up at the ceiling again and ran a hand through her own hair gently. "I can see how they thought they were doing what was right. I can see how they were trying to do good but were shortsighted and oversimplified their choices and reactions. I also feel that they made the wrong choice. I do not know that what I might have done differently would turn out to be the right choice either, however. This might not be a situation where there was a right choice at all. One thing I would not have done is revive the dead to entrap them. I would like to think that I'd have treated them better, and I would like to think that I would have tried to find ways to attempt rehabilitation along the way. But I can also see how they went from a shut in prince who had only his own household to govern and a young woman who only ever had herself and her father to look after to having to rule a kingdom of many disparate cultures who all feared the return of villains or the rise of new ones. Reading between the lines of things Ben has said, I wonder if his parents ever knew a single day absent of fear since the Isle barrier arose."

She sighed again. "That... I think that is a part of my issue with railing against injustice. Because anger makes it all to easy to see what is wrong in the end result without stopping to consider they whys of why it happened. I suspect in this case you did stop to consider it as well.. but that puts you in the minority in general." She closed her eyes. "I think that King Beast and Queen Belle were in the process of being held accountable for some of it when everything changed, for what it is worth. But then we return to the question of 'what is justice? what is enough?', because they watched their son undo the one thing that they thought they had contributed to keeping people safe. They watched someone they thought was truly good, someone they cared about, and saw how she turned to what they would have previously called irredeemably evil. They were, again going off of what Ben has said having never met them myself, in the process of learning and growing. But then... we all are."

"Part of the problem with justice a a concept is that it is like good and evil. It is a monolithic thing that seems obvious and immutable to most people when in reality..." She considered, "Do you know the story of the four blind men and the elephant?"

She had othr points he had made that she wanted to circle back to later and discuss, but...

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